I know, this post is long overdue. The seminar happened a few months ago. Also, I did not my own camera – so I got the pictures here from the photographers who took shots of the seminar. The RA9292 PDF is located within this post.
Last April 24, 2010, I was able to attend one of IECEP’s seminars, which was held here in Baguio City. IECEP stands for Institute of Electronic Engineers in the Philippines, an institution where one of its main goals is to keep registered electronics engineers in the Philipines keep abreast with the latest technological advancements in the field.
What is a lady programmer like me doing with these group of engineers?
IECEP seminar: Can you spot me in the picture?
If you have been poking around my site long enough or had read me through my about page, you might have read that I am an electronics engineer by profession. My past jobs earned me enough skills for me to do the job of a programmer and later, a web designer. However, this does not mean I was not able to practice pure electronics-related job throughout my career – I was once a maintenance engineer in a semiconductor company before I discovered the beauty of earning from blogs and freelancing.
For now, it seemed that the most active IECEP members are instructors: I got to meet again my former college instructors. I also saw several instructors from several universities and colleges in my place. That was expected, I thought. These instructors need to maintain their licenses to keep their jobs.
What really surprised me is that I met a former classmate: she turned out to be an instructor who is working at one of the colleges in the low lands.
The RA9292 Myths
One of the most interesting highlights of the talk was how the Philippine law known as RA9292 or “Electronics Engineering Law of 2004”. I was pleased that this was discussed (I am guessing that IECEP had been explaining this for the nth time to its members).
This Republic Act 9292 was known to have created a stir among Filipino electronics engineers. I heard various complaints in the internet and off the internet. In general I could cite these major myths that are going around:
Myth number 1: Licensed electronics and communications engineers were downgraded to electronics engineers. The name was changed to electronics engineer to reflect the ever-changing fields of electronics engineering. One of the most notable changes was that ICT (information and communications technology), aviation and maritime engineering fields were included. This change was not well defined in the previous act.
Those who finished related courses such as computer and mechatronics engineering must take the ECE board exam to be able to get the license and append the title of engineer to their full names.
Yay! I realized that I did not really got out of my field of expertise!
Myth number 2: Renewal of electronics engineering license is useless if you are into occupations that don’t need licenses. Not for long, as IECEP had already taken further steps to include electronics engineers as one of the signatories in building plans – alongside architects, civil engineers and sanitary engineers. also, there is that future plan to make electronics engineering license recognized not only in the country but on neighboring southeast asian countries as well. Soon enough, engineers working in private companies here in the Philippines need to hold licenses to be able to continue their work.
However, for those working overseas and don’t have plans to work in the Philippines soon, it’s not really practical to maintain this license. It’s best to get licensed from the chosen country of work.
Myth number 3: Don’t bother renewing your electronics engineering license – you need to sweat out CPE points for knowledge that may be unrelated to the job.
CPE point system had been implement in other courses for quite a while, and it is but normal to implement the same in electronics engineering. The purpose of this point system is to make sure that electronics engineers are updated with the technical developments in the field, not only in their field of expertise. Like as mentioned in the previous myth, it won’t be long before licensed electronics engineers becomes a requirement in any electronics engineering occupation.
Myth number 4: If you are in the IT (information technology) field, aviation, maritime and (insert the name of an electronics-related field here) fields, you don’t need to maintain the license. Not true. See myth number 1.
The “Electronics Engineering Act of 2004” is definitely an improvement over the previous RA 5734. It really defined well what electronics engineering is all about. Although I like this change, there are still some issues that IECEP must continuously look after:
- Electronics engineering licenses are still useless except in occupations that require licensed engineers. In many private companies this is still true. I hope IECEP should take the necessary steps so that engineers hired in companies should truly be licensed engineers in the first place. These individual engineers too, should prepare and not wait and complain when they began to realize that they’d lose their jobs just because they aren’t licensed engineers.
- As a result from item number one above, companies should let their engineers be trained for their additional CPE points. This means paid time away from their job and even paid expenses to the place of training!
newly elected IECEP officers - some of them are my former instructors
Electronics Engineers can go into self-employment!
Finally! I get paid for my signature – just like other professions. This is only true if I decide to upgrade my license to professional electronics engineer (PECE). Professional electronics engineers get to sign building plans like any other civil, geodetic and sanitary engineers: during the seminar I was able to see how those building plans look like, but the emphasis of the talk is that each PECE have to be very responsible in approving and signing their building plans, because the responsibility also falls on them.
This development is indeed great news, as it is another promising pathway for me to start a career on this area, in addition to, or as a replacement to my current job as a freelance web designing and blogger.
Download RA 9292 Electronics Engineering Act of 2004
yes,its great when you can take the apportunity to get a license. pirma palang may bayad na…saka mapagbubuti ang trabaho dahil pirma ang nakasalalay.:)
July 18, 2010 at 4:42 pm
I guess it’s you in a brown dress. It’s not obvious, I should have see a lot of semiconductor’s reviews or maybe an IC configurations in your site.
just kidding. Years ago i heard a rumor that Computer Engineering graduates can take the ECE license exam. I really don’t know if it is true. It has been years that i’m hanging around without a license because I am a computer engineering student before. Have you also heard about it? Nice site.
July 23, 2010 at 12:34 pm
“Those who finished related courses such as computer and mechatronics engineering must take the ECE board exam to be able to get the license and append the title of engineer to their full names”
By the way I’m also a electronics engineering and not yet taking up the board exam but I know some of the things happen in IECEP especially in Northern Mindanao.
I think what you said is not clearly stated, correct me if I’m wrong. Sa pagkakaalam ko, magkaiba ang board exam sa isang ECE graduates, PECE applicants at para sa mga ICT (Information and Communication Technology). So with that, magkaiba din ang kanilang hahawakang titolo kung baga.
For:
ECE Passers – Electronics Engineers
PECE Passers – Professional Electronics Engineers
ICT Passers – Electronics Technician
And also tungkol sa CPE points, meron na tayong yan at fully implemented na yan. Register kalang sa account sa IECEPONLINE.ORG para ma update mo rin yung profile mo. At lahat ng mga CPE points mo doon mo ma track. Makikita mo rin doon lahat nga mga Electronics Engineers, PECE at ICT sa iecep online. Kung baga directory ng mga ECE, PECE at ICT.
So pag dimo nakuha yung CPE points na dapat mong kukunin within 3 years ata eh matatanggalan ka ng license mo, pero meron pang mga warning o notice ata bago mangyari yun. Purpose nila nito is to have continues learning in the field of electronics. Kaya may mga seminars na mangyayari quarterly in your chapter.
tapos sa PECE. Makakaperma na rin ngayon lahat ng mga PECE Practitioner sa lahat ng mga building facilities na nangangailangan ng electronics equipment. So advantage to us especially those who are already PECE. I think the requirement is to have atleast 5 years employeed in a company or your own business that has an electronics related. There are requirements to be complied.
I think that’s all! And the bottom line is, YOUR THE ONE IN BROWN DRESS WITH BROWN BAG… HEHEHE correct me if I’m corect.. lolz… I like your site..
July 24, 2010 at 4:38 am
GOOG EVNG TO ALL CONCERN. IM JUST ADDREESS MY COMMENT ABOUT CREATING ELECTRONICS TECHNICIAN,ITS BETTR REGISTERED ELECTRONIS TECHNICIAN JUST LIKE IN ELECTRICAL LAW. REGISTERED MASTER ELECTRICAIN.AS A RA 9292 ELECTRONICS LAW SAYS.SEC.35 LETTER G. PROFESSIONAL ELECTRONICS ENGR AND ELECTRONICS ENGR. LANG ANG IN-CHARGE OF INSTALLATION PWDE.BAKIT WALA ANG ELECTRONICS TECHNICIAN? DAPAT KASALI KAMI SA INCHARGE OF INSTALLATION KAMI ANG ENHANCE AT KAMI ANG WORKER SA SITE OF PROJECT AREA
IF WE ARE CREATING 3 PROFESSION DAPAT EVERY BODYS HAPPY. THANK YOU.
October 16, 2010 at 5:13 pm
ANG PROFESSIONAL ELECTRONICS ENGR,SYA LANG AND DAPAT DESIN AND SIGN SA ELECTRONICS PLAN WITH NO LIMIT. ANG ELECTRONICS ENGR.AT ELECTRONICS TECHNICIAN DAPAT MAKA PERMA SILA SA IN-CHARGE OF INSTALLATION OR ELECTRONICS PERMITS OR ANY ELECTRONICS GADGETS DESIN FROM SKETCH/DRAWING SA PAPEL.PARA MAGAMIT AT MAKA PERA NAMAN ANG LICENSE NILA AT MAY PANG RE NEW. SALAMAT
October 16, 2010 at 5:28 pm
SA ELECTRICAL ENGNG LAW. ANG REGISTERD MASTER ELECTRICIAN PWEDE MAKA INCHARGE AT MAKA PERMA SA ELECT.PERMITS.THE ELECT.LAW SAYS H-SCH.GRAD.AT LEAST 5 YRS EXPERIENCE AS ELECTRICIAN.IF YOU PASS THE EXAM. YOU ARE NOW A PROFESSIONAL.DI BA? PRC ANG LICENSE MO. BAKIT SA ELECTRONICS TECHNICIAN HINDI BA KAMI PROFESSIONAL? ENGINEERING NAMAN GAWA NAMIN.MAGALING NAMAN KAMI SA TRABAHO KAY SA MGA ENGINEER.KUNG WALANG TECHNICIAN GUMAGAWA WALANG MAGAWA
October 16, 2010 at 5:47 pm
I worked a lot of semiconductor company here in our country but my salary indeed sucks! struggling to pay monthly bills. OMG kulang pa. I’ve switch to blogging and SEO since 2006, I did it because i’m tired of it. Marami na nagkaganito di lang mga engineers some were from different fields, yung nagtuturo nga sa akin eh, isang chemist from Ateneo, dito na kami sa SEO at blogging umasenso.
Mas importante sa akin ngayon ay kung paano kumita ng medyo mas malaki.. mahal na lahat ng bilihin.. lolz!
LADY PROGRAMMER keep it up! ganda ng site mo ma’am…
January 2, 2011 at 11:35 pm
True. Most would go abroad. But I’m glad you and I had discovered another option – earning from online jobs and blogging.
January 2, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Sa totoo lang po, tayong mga pinoy e masyadong nakiki-bagay sa ibang mayayamang bansa. Bakit hindi po natin gayahin ang ginawa ng vietnam, thailand, at ngayon cambodia, kung saan ay doon sila sa mga kailangan at mahahalagang produkto naka-salalay.
Food, agriculture, and education, this is where the Philippines is now lagging behind. Unfortunately, we are producing more and more professional engineers per capita but less and less work. Everyone wants to work in high-technology industries, but we don’t even have one. We are worried about licenses and degrees, but all is useless because we can’t even apply any of these. In other countries, we Pinoys are just being regarded as second rate engineers because we can’t compete with the technology the other countries around us already have decades ago.
Electronic engineers, your skills are needed, not by a foreign manufacturing companies who will task you to become technicians, but by our country’s agricultural sector. We need to develop technologies that can help minimize energy costs, low-cost electronic devices that can test our water and soil quality, and devices that can bring education to our farmers in our most remote regions. This is where we need to focus not on licenses and titles, we are lagging behind because of this mentality. Where is the Filipino innovation and creative spirit–we don’t see it anymore after we invented the flourescent lamp and the lunar rover.
Pag-isipan po natin etong maige, habang kaya pa po natin makipag-sabayan sa ibang mahihirap na bansa. Wag po tayong mag-hintay na ibang bansa pa po ang magpadala ng kanilang mga istyudante para maturuan po ang ating mga “engineers” na gumawa ng mga simpleng bagay. Malapit na po tayo, panoorin niyo po ang ngyayari ngayon, lahat po ng magagandang proyekto ay napupunta po sa mga “foreigners” dahil masmaganda ang kanilang gawa. Samantalang tayong mga Pinoy mismo na dapat ay nag-tuturo dahil sariling bansa po natin eto, e tayo pa po ang kailangang maturuan.
Yun lang naman po. Sa uulitin.
February 12, 2012 at 11:39 am
mam, anu po ang subjects to be covered sa electronics technician board exam? im a 3rd year bs electronics technology student.
February 12, 2012 at 8:29 pm
TAMA MGA TINURAN NI MR. JERRY GERONA ANG MGA GUMAGAWA TALAGA DIRTY WORKS AY MGA ELECTRONICS TECHICIAN KAYA DAPAT LANG MABIGYANG RESPETO NAMAN KANILANG PROFESSION. AS FOR ME NAMAN SELF EMPLOYED OR UNDEREMPLOYED SINCE MY LAST STINT ABROAD. IN 2006.
WAYBACK IN 2006, I TRIED APPLYING FOR UPGRADE TO PECE LEVEL PERO NAWALA YUNG APPLICATION KO AT DI NAMAN NAIPALIWANAG NG MGA TAO SA IECEP WHAT HAPPENED.
SIYANGA PALA EVEN THOUGH I WAS NOT A REGULAR IECEP MEMBER BEFORE, MY CONTRIBUTION TO THE ELECTRONICS ENGINEERING PROFESSION AND TO THE INDUSTRY., MODESTY ASIDE HAD TREMENDOUS POSITIVE EFFECT TO THE COUNTRY AND EVEN TO THE COUNTRY(IES) I WORKED WITH. AND WERE QUITE UNBELLIEVABLE LIKE SOLELY REPRESENTING THE PHILIPPINES IN AN ITU SEMINAR WORKSHOP ON CELLULAR MOBILE TELEPHONE SYSTEM AND SATELLITE SYSTEMS AS EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES IN RURAL COMMUNICATIONS DURING THAT ERA, MISSION MEMBER TO CANADA AND FRANCE. AND OTHER NOT SO BIG ACCOMPLISHMENTS BUT NOT LESSER IN IMPORTANCE.
IT IS REALLY IRONICAL THAT RA 9292 WAS ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES (MR. JERRY GERONA AND SIMILAR CASES AS TO MY CASE.
HANGANG DITO MUNA.
BEST RAGARDS TO ALL ESPECIALLY MISS GEM. I ENJOYED READING YOUR ARTICLE, ITS GREAT AND ALSO MR. GERONA TOO. GOD BLESS
February 15, 2012 at 6:37 pm